For other uses, see. I don't like to think what might have happened if they had been discovered.''. the tall man aboriginal spirit; metadata api request failed: component conversion failed: file_ended; caleb foote sandlot Then there was the shake the blanket with my older sisters and friends my turn wasn't coming fast enough so as usual I was whining so they gave me my turn and shake the blanket shake the blanket 1-2-3 they lifted me in the air and let the blanket go results bleeding nose and they all got a right telling off. I lived with my aunt and uncle (Mary Steven, Mailey) my aunt was a cook in Ibrox. A list of almost 3000 ships built at Govan has been collected in the "Clydebuilt Database". They also told police that the same man would rent out a larger car about once a month. Teddy boys jumped on little bike and broke it. Community Centre & Play-Park in the Wine Alley, Govan. . On 13 July 1577, the teinds of Govan were granted to the University of Glasgow, and the Principal of the University ex officio was appointed minister of the parish. One of his best customers was a former police officer who had been thrown out the force due to his heroin addiction. This was the catalyst that led local Govanites into despising the peoph of Moorepark, and considering them as different and alien. He was able to give police precise details of the drug operation Burnside was running and the names of his associates. Small things eh? I liked Daddy Boyd although I never had him as a teacher, he was in charge of the rowing club of which I enjoyed many an hour on the Clyde. I am researching my family tree and as both my grandparents died in 1990 and 1993 respectively I can't ask them. From start to finish this series has been amazing roll on book four! The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. I went undercover on the 'Wine Alley' to tackle drug problem Ex-undercover police officer Simon McLean has written about his experience tackling Glasgow's drug problem during the 80s. We also have a great selection of craft beers! There is absolutely no hiding from the fact that no Section 30 is the bullying action of a . I was born in 23 McGregor Street Teucharhill in 1962 and remember my mum waiting until the last minute and getting a lift to the polling station, promising to vote for whichever party candidate provided the transport (aye right) still though when the 70s arrived I would have voted for the blonde wummin shouting through a megaphone at the end of the street even though I'd no idea what she was on about or what party she represented, she was a bit of a belter called Margo MacDonald. I can remember having to use the toilet on the landing using a massive key to open the door. : Gwovan[3]? Directions to Wine Alley Govan (Glasgow) with public transport The following transport lines have routes that pass near Wine Alley Govan Bus : 121 23 26 X19 Train : SCOTRAIL Light rail : SUB How to get to Wine Alley Govan by Bus? My name is James Murray, my dad Edward Murray grew up in Govan. [8] Govan is Baile a' Ghobhainn (the smith's town) in Scottish Gaelic. Moore Park (Glasgow University Library, Special Collections, Dougan Collection, 1870), OS 25 inch Scotland, 1892-1905 (Moore Park), "Glasgow, Govan, Moorepark Housing Estate", Gender and Political Identities in Scotland, 1919-1939, Ian Jack: Problem Families (review of 'From Moorepark to Wine Alley: The Rise and Fall of a Glasgow Housing Scheme' by Sean Damer), Debate: Housing and Local Government (Scotland), Poverty, deprivation and development in working class communities, Photo of Benburb F.C. 11 Barr, 1997, p. 47-58 12Dailly, 2005, p. 8 It was a two bedroom, living room with a kitchenette and full bathroom. Burnside, 42, known as the Godfather, lived on the top-floor flat of his tenement. Strange thing is that we carried passengers on some days, these passengers had a dinner on board while we discharged the cargo with most never knowing what was happening. dealing, drug abuse, and money lending had flourished in a big way since 1975, which only added to the schemes wretchedness. The Murrays were a large family maybe someone remembers them? Added to these miseries, Damer also found that drug Govan Church was rebuilt in 1762, and again in 1826. 102m The Govan Shed . Following decades of decline, with existing residents experiencing prejudice and only those with little other choice willing to move to the area, Moorepark was named by The Independent newspaper in April 1994 as one of the worst areas in the United Kingdom, with drug abuse being a widespread problem and unemployment standing at nearly 30% (up to three times the national average at the time). I remember your family at 100 Harmony Row, my cousin Maisie McAlinden was friendly with the family also my Granny, or as she was better known, MAW Austin, hence I was bettter known a Joe Austin. Second, two documents from the Social Exclusion Unit (SEU), which focus on the decline of the urban neighbourhood, argue that the decline almost always starts with a lack of work. My grandmother's name was Mary Murray she had eight children one being my mother Helen who was born in 1927. I was born in Govan in 1950 at 10 Pearce Street across from the P.I., there was only one close in Pearce Street. During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. See more of Sunny Govan Memories on Facebook. We lived in Linthouse at that time, and then we moved to Shaw Street in Govan. These were not cleared until well into the 1970s. I was in the 102 Life Boys then the Boys Brigade with my big brother Tommy. Conecteaz-te. 9/1 [25], Govan was at one point the centre of the world-renowned Clydeside shipbuilding industry. Vine Alley Bistro 13 reviews Claimed Wine Bars, Wine Tasting Classes Edit Closed 4:00 PM - 9:00 PM Hours updated 2 months ago See hours See all 31 photos Write a review Add photo Location & Hours 114 Market St Gaithersburg, MD 20878 Get directions Edit business info You Might Also Consider Sponsored iRock Karaoke Lounge 141 Instead, it referred to the popularity of cheap and powerful tonic wines particularly with young people - the vast consumption of which would often lead to violence and disorder. These incomers earned the contempt and resentment of some disgruntled local inhabitants, who focused on problems of anti-social behaviour in the estate, which acquired the nickname "Wine Alley". They were followed there and back by a second surveillance team and the vehicle stopped near Ibrox. When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. Wall furniture and coverings, clothing, beds and bedding, carpets and furniture were badly affected by fungi while many of the inhabitants suffered physical illnesses related to the damp atmosphere, financial anguish at the cost of replacement and (in some cases), mental problems brought on by the worry caused by the above problems in the first place! Portrait of a Lady by Esme Clark. Good times we had, wonder where they all are now and if they remember me. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Glasgow Braendam Link is a Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in Scotland, No. From 1815 onwards, a total of 67 men and four women were hanged at the Glasgow Green site, which was once known as Jail Square. I was born and raised at 976 Govan road and remember concerts we used to have round the back for the neighbours and we would make costumes out of crepe paper and sing songs like" oh you beautiful doll you great big beautiful doll". I can see from the various pieces of information I have obtained that the Leddy's lived in various places in Govan including 61 Victoria Street, 10 John Street, 76 White Street and 11 Logie Street. 114m Nailsby Taylor . C/o Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND AGENT Jones Lang LaSalle 150 St Vincent Street Glasgow G22 5ND WARD NO (S) 52, Govan COMMUNITY COUNCIL 02_073, Govan CONSERVATION AREA LISTED ADVERTTYPE Bad Neighbour Development PUBLISHED 24 October 2003 SITE AND DESCRIPTION Forgotten account? There was a milk depot (Cuthbertson's Dairy) at the bottom of the street where we used to go and if we were lucky they would let us feed the horses, those were the days, how I loved going to the Plaza every Saturday morning to the ABC minors and when it was our birthday we got to go up on the stage and everyone sang to us. Alley & Vine will be ready for outdoor and indoor dining once allowed, but until then, customers can order online or by phone for takeout and curbside pickup. We all loved living there as Govan was such a great place and had everything you needed, especially four cinemas. Pipe Band. What a memory. You never forget these things, but what great days and what character building it was. Also used to go for a bath there even though we had a bath at home. Scots: Gouan; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland. (was it Grant's????? As I recall they sold very trendy tops marketed as Trendy. In Canada, I joined the Royal Canadian Air Force, and served 37 years before retiring. The writer on housing problems, T. A. Markus, wondered why many important questions were never asked in the planning process. Her daughter had a hairdressers just up from St Constantine's, I think, and my Gran got me to go along and help her wash the towels on Saturday night. One day in the Summer, off we went to the Steamie, everybody went in, my Cousin and I stayed outside. I also went to the Glasgow City Mission which was in Kintra Street, how I loved my childhood. SC 020951 Pagini similare. Mind you, the mice we lifted them out of a glass tank by the tail then put them in thick brown bags of thinnish white boxes for their journey home and I'm convinced most would have chewed through and escaped within minutes of leaving the shop. It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick. Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other He also procured a contract with the Royal Navy to produce vessels, notably the Jackal, the Lizard, and the Bloodhound. From Rushden we came back to Larbert, then to Lauder. A similar uncertainty existed regarding the nearby lands of Pollokshields and Westends. J. N. REILLY There is a war on. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' . Henry (Harry) Knop was born in Govan in 1902, he married Susan Bowie in 1924, they had at least 5 children; Harriet, Frederick, Arthur, Helen and Henry, Harry Knop died in 1976. Went to the new Hills Trust School in about 1975 where Mrs Carnegie was head teacher. She got married in 1956 to my grandfather Robert. Full of great memories. Many of the men worked at the shipyards or the preserves factory. Zobrazi viac od Sunny Govan Memories na Facebooku. Hullo! We were also in the Choir at Govan Parish church and in the B.B. Water was always roasting hot and bath was very deep used to spend hours in it; and who can forget the carbolic soap!!! We had 4 Cinemas that we could go to and the swimming baths and all the dykes round the back to jump and all the different games we played outdoors until the street lights went on and Dad shouted out the window it was time to come up the stairs. Yup I'll always be from Govan even though we lived a bus ride with the messages away from it in Shieldhall, that was situated near to the 50 pitches, I remember well my Dad and me watching the shipyards football competitions. Komunitn organizcia. Get directions. approached in flavour to wine. He also sold single woodbine cigarettes out the packet. I have many happy memories of Govan. Any way they started to ask us our schools and of course my mates answered Broomloan Rd, Bellahouston and Lorne St, but when it came my turn my truthful answer was Our Lady and St Margaret's Primary just up the road from here. Value 3/4 . No1seems2care. Classification Housing Estate (Modern) Alternative Name (s) Moorpark Housing Estate; 'wine Alley'. 14). Napier's Shipyard in Govan was later acquired by William Beardmore and Company in 1876 and incorporated into William Beardmore and Company in around 1900. Listing details information provided by Stephen Redding. [23], It was parodied by the BBC sitcom Rab C. Nesbitt. Town officials arranged for the deepening of the Clyde in 1759, the reclamation of the channels between the islands (The Whyte Inch, The Black Inch, and The King's Inch), and the construction of quays and docks. I might have served you in the shop in the early 70s as a teenager. I agreed and the result is the Report, which you now have today which is meant for the October 17th World Poverty Day. It was a them and us attitude that persisted right up until the Wine Alley was demolished in the late 1990s. Management of entrance into the block zones was poor while the risk of personal attack inside and outside the flats was high. who originated from the Helen Street area of Govan, but are now based further west at Shieldhall. Was never out your streets up the fighting lol Peg & the Fleet pussies,Possil Border kicked your assesmany times. The Govan of my parents had gone, the works and the jobs and the people they spoke about had all gone. 6 Markus, 1993, p. 163 There was a chapel in the parish at Partick. Bishop King. Nobody like them in the World. The City of Woodinville's Mayor Mike Millan cut the ribbon to mark the occasion. I went to Greenfield then Govan High left school in 1975 and worked in Govan shipyard canteen my mates wee Calum McLean, Brian Lavoury, Billy Cameron, Tam Reid, Jim Reynolds and Stephen Gourley now living in England. I remember the days my sister and I would take part in the fair while we were in a dancing school, which was named Thompsons. When I was a wee lassie of four living on Neptune Street in the early 50's I walked away down the street from our close and got lost. I always thought it was a listed building. JAMES D. YOUNG Culture and Socialism: Working-Class Glasgow, 1778-1978, The future of Technics and Civilisation Lewis Mumford, The intellectual life of the British Working Classes. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. I was born in Govan in 1942 and lived in Elder Stree before moving to 15 Water Row above the bakers James Jack & Sons, my father worked there for 56 years. When Damer returned to the area in 1989 he found that his earlier report had had two outcomes. We engraved pet medallions and Jackie let me do it because I had nice handwriting. Very fond memories. Used to spend all summer there paying in twice, having to queue up for second swim with towel around yourself sometimes freezing and having to wait in line. I stayed all over Govan, I was born in the Southern General in 1961 and was brought home to Neptune St then I stayed in Govan Rd, Broomloan Rd and Carmichael St. For about a decade that shop stood empty and it broke my heart. 8 Markus, 1993, p. 163 I've been back to visit my relatives several times, but the old places are gone. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. The estate was acquired in the 1870s by the Glasgow and South Western Railway Company and the mansion house was demolished. Such developments benefit the aesthetic and connective appeal of the Govan area for future visitors. JEFF TORRINGTON Singing: No, No, Yuppie, Yuppie NO! We went this year to the Fairfield shipyard museum which was very interesting. Govan has had several local newspapers over the years such as the Govan Chronicle and Govan Press published by the Cossar Family (1851-1983) and by John Maclean (20062014) which also served the communities of Kinning Park, Cardonald, Penilee and Hillington, and the Govan Post (19831988) published by Cook, Paton & Co. of Paisley, now part of Dunfermline Press. I really like the big Co-op department store and Woolworths on Langlands Road. I remember Vogue would show two part Westerns that made us come back the following Saturday to find out who won the fight, there was also an entertainer named "uncle Harry" who would go up on the stage when the movie was over and ask us to wave our white hankies that we were asked to bring, we would all stand up and sing "Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag" before we left. It is in this context that he placed the above paragraph at the very forefront of his book From Moorepark to Wine Alley, The rise and fall of a Glasgow housing scheme, and it is also for the same reasons that this section of the Braendam Link Report investigates housing (especially in Glasgow), its problems, and how they could be solved by community planning. Janet Logan (Williamson) I remember your family. Once the area had gained a bad reputation (through no fault of its own), this was picked up by Govans local newspaper, The Govan Press, who furthered the image in a relentlessly aggressive campaign against the inhabitants until even the authorities began to believe it too. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme. Gran was Annie Murphy but her dad died when she was 4 and her mother remarried John Johnston and went on to have a huge number of children - and as we research the family, we keep finding more. My Granny, Cassie Donaghey stayed at 9 Orkney Street, Govan where I went at weekends and for holidays (Yeah from Drumchapel). ', "1881 England Census, The London Charterhouse, St Sepulchre Without, London, p.6 RG11/344", "University of Glasgow:: Story:: Biography of Jimmy Reid", "Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977 (c. 3) Schedule 2 Shipbuilding Industry", Govan Maps 1857-1934, National Library of Scotland, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Govan&oldid=1127691800, Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica with Wikisource reference, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles containing Scottish Gaelic-language text, Articles with MusicBrainz area identifiers, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 16 December 2022, at 03:51. Site Number NS56NE 4994. My mum's brother Spinx (George Hewitt) stayed in Teucharhill and my dad's brother Alex Rodgers drove a milk float. Poor health and low-levels of educational qualifications are offered as secondary parts of the equation. I am Mary Haggarty and it was 95 Golspie street, cannot believe someone remembers, my mum will probably remember your family will ask her tonight. I lived in Elderpark Street and the Wine Alley. I noticed a post by Murray G. Wondering if we might be related at all? My Aunt and Uncle Kathleen and Tommy Blacker lived in 6 Rathlin Street, Govan. In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. In particular, urban communities are increasingly constrained by both local and governmental authorities, and also by outside economic factors, which can and do prohibit perceived changes for the better. It would also mean long hours of up to 18 hours day in unpleasant conditions. In 1885, the yard moved further west to its present site and was reorganised as the Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering Company Ltd. [28], In 1977, the Labour government of James Callaghan passed the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act which nationalised Govan and grouped it with other major British shipyards as British Shipbuilders. Our parents and our brother were also married there, and we were all Christened there as well. Lesbian actress Raven-Symone showed off her high top fade and her unique backpack at the Los Angeles Premiere of Fox's 'Empire at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, California. I remember one time, my big brother hiding in the midden under all the ashes, when I went down three stories to empty the fire ashes. Co. Ltd., Alexander Stephens & Sons, J & G Thomson, Harland & Wolff and more. Encouraging families to participate in the community and to use local facilities and services Ensuring that the voice of those living in poverty is heard My cousin disappeared, the policeman went into the steamie and came out with a bucket of soapy water and a cloth to wipe it off. [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. In fact, Glasgow Corporation was so determined to place many of the cities socially deprived into Moorepark that they even advertised for them in the newspapers. USA. I met him at our place of employment. At the end of his stay in the housing scheme Damer wrote a report on the area entitled From Moorepark to Wine Alley in what was a damning indictment of officialdom for its arrogant neglect of Moorepark and the people who lived there. Several hotel chains have moved in while both BBC Scotland and STV have their studio complexes there. I was born in 1961. Glasgow Green Flagstones at Jocelyn Square in front of the McLennan Arch inform us that this was the site of public executions in the city until 1865. This company continued until 1965, when it filed for bankruptcy. Add your own memories or stories by clicking here. Three times during my young life I was sent away to residential schools for being undernourished while just before my 14th birthday I was put away in an approved school (in 1963) for a large number of burglaries. It was great reading all the stories. We left govan to go to Drumchapel. A later rebuilding was begun in 1884 and was opened 19 May 1888.[11][45]. My great grandfather lived at 67 Garmouth Street with his 3 daughters. I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. I would like to hear from anybody who knew any of us up until 1981 when my mum and dad left Ibrox to move to Craigton. Members of our family have now moved away to other locations in Glasgow and Paisley, but we still remember our childhoods growing up in Govan. Does anyone remember; Sophie, Robert; and Mary,who lived in Carmichael Street, Govan 1936? Synopsis I found this site by mistake while i was trying to find people that i used to hang around with in Govan, I lived in Rathlin Street, opposite the Elder picture house, my mum and dad were Mary and Eddie Mellon and brothers Paul and Ward. Great memories. I recall going to the Co-op hypermarket on a Saturday morning for messages. British Aerospace, established by the same act, was privatised in 1981. Anyone remember the prego cafe and who ran it? Went to St. Gerards School from January 1959 to December 1962. Below are memories and stories about Govan posted by visitors to the site. My earliest memory is when I was about 4 playing outside our close 39 Nethan St, my mum had got me all dressed up as the photographer was coming to take our photo , me and my 2 sisters sitting on the sideboard I wandered out the house with my new truck with wee soldiers in the back and was playing in a puddle when the photographer arrived and had to get all cleaned up again before the photo was taken, I have FTD (dementia) this affects my short term memory but fortunately not my long term memories, I have cousins who still stay around the wine alley. Other Sundays maybe Helen and I would visit the graves of our mothers at Cardonald Cemetery (her mother died when she was 5). Govan is served by Govan Subway Station, Ibrox Subway Station and Cessnock Subway Station on the Glasgow subway system. 14 Riverside Changes, 2005, p. 1 Alley & Vine. The origins of the Doomster Hill are a mystery. I would like to know if anyone remembers these times. The county added to the description of these lands, the phrase: "but now by annexation in the County of Renfrew. It is now an industrial estate . I don't know the name though and wondered if anyone could remember it. 109m Bells Bar . It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. Comedian. Curtis Govan, 23, was convicted in July of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, simple assault, resisting arrest,.

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