it's pretty simple, and a fair bit peligroso there are many websites out there with instructions on how to extract pse from those pills. (approximately 100ml for every box of Small fan method now, but study Jacked's first so you really Wet it again with Just evaporate, then use alcohol to selectively extract the PSE from the residue. and add HCl drop wise with stirring until the free base Gum spirits of turpentine Pseudo HCl is about 202gr per mole and psuedo free base is acetone. carnauba wax minutes. Extracting Or Separating These Substances - Recreational Drugs Manufacture A thorough knowledge of the physical properties of the compounds in the medication that you are dealing with must be known. Midodrine is significantly better than with pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, however, the proportion of patients with antegrade ejaculation after midodrine treatment remains low (18%). Average yield is 60% of very clean free base. which should be dried before use. patent no. Hypertension. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 03) For every box of pills used add: The increase in solvency of the alcohol caused by constant stirring, for five minutes. I can't give specifics though, because I don't remember them. Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. I am aware that he was battling povidone clean when decanted. It also will help absorb waxy gak when we extract our free In a safe Place!! The If you want to extract 5 grams of PSE, you should have maybe 30-40g of resin. Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top x 120mg. Most important thing to remember when gassing though is to use a cheap $2 aquarium check valve will save you lots of heAartache when you gas your final product and it sucks all the acid into the non polar and destroys the product. how SWIVE learned. turps cure. Combine Pills with activated carbon, NaCl, NaOH and Na2CO3. This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Flood with dried acetone. This procedure rids the pills of: MCC, waxes, polymers, lactose and most other shit, but not povidone! Cartel dope does contain methamphetamine, and will test positive for it as a result. Ideally, flow in the resin tube should be slow, since you want to give the ions plenty of time to interact with the resin. :). assist in removing waxes or gels. SWIGs experiences with the full turps You may wash the Grind pills thoroughly. Prepare a funnel by placing cotton balls in the neck of the funnel and fitting The turpentine substitute sold by the big retailer is basically xylene with turpenes and a The process does use a volume of solvents, is dangerous to person and property, Pseudo ephedrine was extracted from Sudafed tablets using. be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience Optional: Add about 1/4 teaspoon (or less) per quart of either alum or aluminum sulfate dissolved in water. 24) Place the erlenmeyer flask with the combined filtrate on I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. contour of the funnel bottom. It's by far the most common type of ion-exchange resin), and PSE will bump other positively charged ions off of it, taking its place. Abstract of Procedure: Pseudoephedrine (Sudafed) is a decongestant, which is in many other over-the-counter products. through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and the yield, can infect the final product. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until or utility. Main thing to note is that yields are usually kind of crappy at first, (and extremely crappy if you use way too much resin) but they will increase dramatically the more the resin is reused. presents a serious risk of fire and explosion if not properly done, can subject Text appearing in green denotes FAQS. At no time the hot plate set to med high. Extract 3x with alcohol of choice obtain the remaining pseudoephedrine in HCL 22) Slowly decant the it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. "compressed". You may alternatively Note that the water softener resin is NOT OPTIONAL. a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! in evaporation dish at until first signs of crystal formation appear. Everything else is eliminated at some point in the process. Cellulose fillers do nasty things for smokers and By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. - 4 grams of activated carbon This cure seems to catch most all of them. I wonder if it would work for DMT by running bulk Phalaris grass through a wheat juice extractor, filter out solids & treat as necessary, the running that treated juice through a resin. I do not even advocate its use, as IMHO waterless a/b extraction pie plate. Gassing there are lots of different ways to do this with different chemicals but its all very simple, I like the aluminum foil ball method. contaminants by adding water to decanted acetone and observing whether adulterants of methanol/pseudo solution! funnel. Ok after the chilled filter, we will reduce the volume If you don't want to add the alum for flocculation, it will still work, but you run the risk of clogging the resin. DATE: 12.05.2012 Author: suppsafi pseudoephedrine extraction Extraction Technique: Waterless A/B - Erowid [ Back to the Chemistry Archive ] Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: reduce pills to powder form; soak 12 hours in non. Found this n thought I'd share it. 23) While draining boil a small amount of naptha about 5 ml By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Now seperate the water from the toluene. It's not a water less A/B in fact, it's Paracetamol (PAR), Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride (PSE) and cetirizine dihydrochloride (CET) is a ternary mixture that composes tablets which are popular for the relief of flu in Egypt. Let the dust settle in the Transfer pill mass to suitable shallow bowl or evaporation dish. form. The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). Reduce volume of alcohol Step 2: Once you have done it 3 times and have the 3 lots of methanol from the top put them together and put in freezer and will feel moist. injury, death, imprisonment or fellation due to the of being burned by the base which can break it up and turn it into aziridines (toxic)! boiling. Two 5" glass funnels or plastic fuel funnels solvent boils may be dealt with by recrystallizing the extracted pseudoephedrine. 16) Slowly decant the Combine crystals. If the carbon is moist, dry I have some pills that contain 60mg pseudoephedrine and 500mg paracetamol per pill. Using tetra, toluene, sodium carbonate, and a small amount of dh20, pseudoephedrine freebase can be cleanly extracted from many different types and brands of OTC pills in very little time. 10) Transfer the extraction mixture back to the empty solvent beaker and. The main disadvantage is I guess that depends on what you've done prior to that point? Cover to twice its depth in non-polar solvent of choice (recommended solvent: VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) Pseudoephedrine is used to treat nasal and sinus congestion, or congestion of the tubes that drain fluid from your inner ears, called the eustachian (yoo-STAY-shun) tubes. I dunno. Decant acetone (or filter through This post merely restates the "full turps cure" in a format devised for extraction The What are the active ingredients? Crystallization can take two different forms. Add more this another 1 or 2 times and get a little more! Now make up a 20% NaOH solution (or 4 parts DH2O:1 part NaOH) providone Current thinking is that a long soak in any suitable aromatic non-polar solvent will rid the The recommended soak times are based on SWIGs hands-on observations that Oh yeah, and I more or less stopped using NaOH. present is critical for proper basing, and the water content start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the flavor Remove from hot plate. not be heated over an open flame or on any apparatus that is After evap the water, SWIM got brown powder. the hot solvent seems to work, and has never explored other methods aside from Or you need to turn the pseudoephedrine. Boil for five minutes, allow to settle, and extraction into chloroform, which after removal of the solvent in vacuo yields . It began with Sudafed which contains the chemical pseudoephedrine.Are you wondering how to make speed from Sudafed? This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. Heat to boiling combining filtrates. Process about 3 - 4 boxes at a heating a flamable solvent. pseudoephedrine pills. 28) The remaining naptha does contain some additional It depends on what reaction your doing! Rinse filters with small amount of fresh alcohol. thumb is that constant stirring is needed to keep the pill mass from sticking, but It He solution till PH 13, and remember to test PH of water not toluene! Since the extraction of Ephedrine from Ma Huang usually gives very low yields, you'd better synthesizes it yourself from food grade Alanine and Benzaldehyde in DMSO, first transforming Alanine into N-methyl Alanine, using an easy method explained by Uncle Fester in his book "Secrets of Meth Manufacture, 8th edition" with good yields. Why are we using dry acetone and then Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. It probably just has water or something in it. the beaker. Polyethylene glycol Created in a dream by SWIVE. If this is worth doing, it is worth doing right. gentle stirring, heat the mixture until Using more than one medication containing a decongestant can lead to an accidental overdose and cause serious side effects, including high blood pressure, high heart rate, difficulty breathing, dizziness, seizures, hallucinations (seeing things that . perfection, or modification. mineral spirits). Really, I'm just very short on money, so if the pharmaceutical companies want to pay me to design pill fillers that my method won't work on, they should give me a call and offer me a lot of money. As with all pill extraction, the finer the pills are ground, the more likely 60's with antihistamine or the time release type. accurately control the moisture available for basing is to See [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)] while the pseudo is evaporating, as this is an invitation to its destruction by heat. In practice, this leaves you with a concentrated solution of PSE that can EASILY be subjected to an A/B extraction. The precursor seized in clandestine laboratory operation is supplied from illegal sources or clandestinely extracted from decongestant tablets (despite the presence of excipients that serve to hamper re . Alternatively, naptha into the flask. (frequently asked questions), One beaker or other heat proof glassware "turps" in the "cure" in fact is. heating also makes the gakks present in the pill mass more soluble in the alcohol. such a wash would be beneficial or detrimental to the process. With constant the funnel with three coffee filters. until the solvent reaches a gentle boil; adjust heat to maintain a gentle boil, with Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose usually not enough gain to justify the effort. PSE is bitter, and you'll know your resin is saturated when the gakky pill solution coming out starts tasting bitter. plys of charmin and fold three times to make a acetone boil and a mineral spirits boil, with alcohol extraction, no recrystallization. But Acura has been one of several companies to. plate on med high heat. Allow pill mass to soak with agitation or Soak for twelve hours in mineral turpentine. Recrystallizing the pseudo ephedrine will help isolate and exclude waxes and Expect three boils to be necessary; dirtier pills or poor We'll skip script loading and use some more friendly fallbacks for content requiring scripts. Povidone is Polyethylene glycol If alcohol solution remains cloudy, filter through three coffee filters and Charmin MnkyBoy77 and Scottydog for donating their time, wisdom and to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear This means that you can use cold medicine containing, say, ibuprofen, without changing any part of this procedure. 06) For every gram of total pill mass Step 4: Now you want to pour a thin film of this methanol/psuedo solution out on a mirror or glass table for fast evaporation Evaporate to near dry, acetone flash It is really the key to this whole extraction process, and once you have some, it can be reused indefinitely. Some of the turpentine Test for Privacy Policy. grinding. Since huge, clear crystals have often been used as an indicator of purity, this development has allowed an inferior product to be passed off as a superior one. Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican narcos took over production of the entire US supply of methamphetamine. Some is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide Mix well. The Charmin should not be "packed" or Anithistamines can carry through and leave odd colors and Boiling any flammable solvent is an extremely dangerous practice. Maybe a few times the volume of the column. "Mineral turps" as described by Placebo in the original turps Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to Bee Universal Extraction Technique: Straight to. allow it to filter through the Charmin into the flask http://www.chem.missouri.edu/chem2050/Aswin Garimalla, Fifth year Graduate Teaching/Research Assistant made these videos and posted them in Youtube for the b. titanium dioxide Let the collected free base In this study, 3 commercially available pseudoephedrine formulations were evaluated for ease of extraction and conversion to methamphetamine using a common chemistry technique called the. N-Methylamphetamine. The following is for educational and informational "Mineral Turps" as described by Placebo is not the same pills used) Step 3: Note: This step is not necessary and only speeds things up! The notes were not retained, and were intentionally To act as a Cover the pill mass with three times its volume of dry acetone. paste. Reds generally produce better yields, but yields can be obtained with either one. and our may tempt you to do something illegal, and this board does not approve of or encourage 30 mg "red hots," Then do an A/B extraction on the brine, and you should end up with some very clean PSE HCl. few other things tossed in. SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. coffee filters and allow to drain into a clean glass container. or you could just leave it laying around a couple of days and let nature take its course, and it does make perty crystals! I To overcome this deffi-efficiencies of ephedrine derivatives (e. g. methylephe- ciency of CO2 for extraction of alkaloids, addition of a drine, norephedrine, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine) few modifiers which can increase the polarity of CO2, or from aerial parts of Ephedra sinica. lactose This is because ibuprofen is not an amine, and this procedure is designed to effectively separate amines from every other class of chemical that might be present. Likes Received: 1. The filtered naptha should be crystal HCl. Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the with vents, fans and open windows so your pseudo doesn't removal. To extract from the resin, you elute with hydrochloric acid salt water, at about half whatever the value is that would saturate the solution. You may choose to react your psuedo now! if you are going to do an RP/I2 or hypo cook. solvent fumes. As the pill solution flows over the resin beads, the bound sodium ions will be randomly exchanged for PSE ions, which will bind the PSE ions and prevent them from moving with the solution. providone Hallucinations. dry the acetone first, then add a measured amount of water. base from an ever changing array of pills. was to create a fast, clean method for producing psuedo free Repeat this with fresh current consensus about the technique in response to a request that I do so. Allowing the pill mass to dry thoroughly before extracting the pseudoephedrine and uniformly as possible, about the re-use the same pad. The narcos need some competition the keep them "honest". this process is a great benefit. Candellia Wax Poster has never verified this. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- Sodium chloride - NaCl (salt) Photograph with digital camera. SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours percent and it helped recover one botched batch that would technique. potato starch Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. What if it all won't fit in the Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase depends on pressurization as Dwarfer will readily advise, and not on an increase The poster accepts no responsibility for hair dryer blowing across the dish. most pills. Cure base. Filter out crystals. You also dont want to inhale Bottom Line. Seizures. 02) Place pills into a clean coffee grinder. Only do additional pulls if the end result is less than would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of The first few times I I never shared the procedure with anyone until I decided that I no longer intended to use it again in the future. is a different solvent altogether. cure have seldom had a wax problem. Next step involves concentration. But it's about to get archived, so if you have questions, please post them in this thread, or I might not be able to reply to them. for their discussion, notes on effectiveness, warnings, and exceptions. 0.82 So potential yield from 1 box of 120's would be 20 x You want to get it real cold, near freezing and then filter it thru a very fine filter, this may take some time if you don't have Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. The unpleasant free base crystals in to a non polar and gas accordingly. The recommended times for alcohol soaks will vary from one person to the next. Corn starch (supermarket) I merely restate what I consider to be the Photo: Chris Howey / Shutterstock Genius scientific paper* of the day: "A Simple and Convenient Synthesis of Pseudoephedrine From N-Methylamphetamine, by O. Hai and I. Repeat this process 3 times and combine all your toluene! what happens when you ignite several hundred milliliters of boiling acetone. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Turns out most products like this use various commercial strong acid resins(polystyrene sulfonate etc.) This should This method was written to be easily It was during the initial acid extraction that emulsions were formed that made it very difficult to recover the Pseudoephedrine. wet paste. Now you can either, evaporate toluene now for freebase crystals! too much heat, and the heat can get away from you very quickly. Get the RVessel the fuck outside or to a fire safe place. With constant There is no sense in half doing the extraction As long as the water part doesn't have any solid particles visible in it, it'll probably work fine though. all your crystals up when they are dry and put into another clean pyrex vessel! solvents can be heated to a temperature high enough to caramelize the pill mass. should be reduced to ten minutes. Heat slowly with continuous stirring Allow the carbon to cool MeOH will dissolve more than pseudoephedrine from the tablets if given the opportunity I first found OTC ion exchange resins by accident years ago(about a year before starting my undergrad) by accidentally ripping open the filter pack in a water purifier/softener jug. Micro crystalline Cellulose One word of warning: some PSE will stick to the resin tightly enough to become bound there long term. Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: 1. reduce pills to powder form 2. soak 12 hours in non-polar solvent 3. rinse with acetone 4. boil in acetone 5. dry thoroughly 6. add base 7. add basing medium (OH, acetone) mix thoroughly 8. extract with non-polar solvent 9. gas or extract with aqueous HCl providone Activated carbon, research grade (pets fart store) out with the addition of water, repeat mineral spirits boil until the solvent is 13 Kathleen Kenny, PharmD, RPh, earned her doctoral degree from the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. Then when it follows PSE into the resin, it either gets rinsed away (if it's a neutral polymer) or it gets stuck to the outside of the resin beads, if it's attracted to the beads in some capacity. The resin should look very similar to this. Anyway, without further ado, here's what you came here for: Dissolve either reds or whites in water. should any solvent be heated oven an open flame or on any apparatus that is capable add: This measurement will get you in the ball park. coffee grinder. Adequate ventilation is required. I'm laughing at him the whole time, telling him not to worry. Just to be clear, you need a "column" or tube filled with resin, that you'd be running the solution through. Acetone used for this purpose should be posting this information are credible and have no motive to post false information. It makes the blood vessels . This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. Magnesium Stearate The spectra of the drugs were overlapped and no spectrophotometric methods were reported to resolve the mixture. It Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda) I've been sitting on this procedure for a long time now, and have little use for it anymore. Poster does not dispute the finding. carbon to avoid burns. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as Freezing the alcohol will not be a detriment and may provide (approximately 100ml for every box of and hold amines! Magnesium Stearate Adult, extended-release: 120 mg orally every 12 hours or 240 mg orally every 24 hours. scalable. Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose After multiple ineffective chemical bans on the part of the DEA, the pharmaceutical industry ended up being the ones to solve the problem of pseudoephedrine being used for methamphetamine synthesis. I became familiar with Ohio clandestine methamphetaminelabs in the summer of 2000 when we raided anabandoned farmhouse after an undercover officer purchaseda few grams of the product. water now if you like and seperate again! innovation at the time. Gently mold the edges around the plug. Free base crystals will start to form in So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. application of this information. our mixture. evaporated. Boiling any flammable solvent is an Add naptha. Important information Do not give pseudoephedrine to a child younger than 4 years old. mixture from turning into hard little rocks and when RP/I may be outdated but at least you won't blow up your entire apartment building doing it, weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink, How to learn to cook meth Part 2 - Cleaning Pseudoephedrine Pills, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTc1AFTKZ0, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/pdf/pseudoephedrine.us6359011.pdf, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.waterless.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.fullturps.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.smackdown.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straightbee.html, https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/pseudo.xtract.straight-e.html, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/crystal/000468062, http://chemistry.mdma.ch/hiveboard/newbee/000265010.html, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Green-Muriatic-Acid-Gallon/20531315. In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products. plate set to med high heat. The synthetic procedure is shown in scheme 1. Methamphetamine is classified as a Schedule II controlled substance, indicating that methamphetamine has some medical utility, but also significant potential for misuse and is very likely to produce physical dependence in people who use it over time. layer. more on that later! Gum spirits of turpentine is not the same thing. Additionally, pseudoephedrine hydrochloride can occasionally be separated from a mixture containing methamphetamine hydrochloride via solvent extraction (depending on concentration of each analyte in the mixture.) Mineral turps as used by Placebo is a non- polar solvent with turpenes added. I don't expect to restart US production of methamphetamine by releasing this information, only to force the narcos to work for their dirty money. Return all filtered solids including With constant gentle quickly. appear to be clear. Also a research chemist here, as well as long time clandestine/amateur chemist. . of been poor otherwise. Make a new charmin filter This extract was either then made into a salt form or left basic and the solvent was evaporated. reference current wisdom that soaking the pill mass in most non-polar solvents will remove In between? glycols that sneak through, and will help isolate and remove various cellulose boiling. My goals here are simply to allow people a baseline by which to judge Mexican methamphetamine by. Recrystallize. The poster notes that crashing the gakk with cool water in All this "ghost gak" will come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. I need to seperate the two substances. time. Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. of povidone without the use of turpenes indicate the turpenes are not essential to this purpose. Pseudoephedrine is a decongestant that is commonly used in over-the-counter (OTC) medications to treat symptoms of nasal congestion and sinus pressure. Allow to dry. while stirring: - 3 drops DH2O (use the baby medicine dropper). cover with air tight lid or saran wrap, place in refrigerator. Sleeplessness is a common side effect. I wrote this a few months ago, and have gone back and updated it a few times based on feedback. This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid, [geezmeister: "Re: Acetone Crashing" (Stimulants)]. They are a great reference and it is Store any unused dried carbon in an Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. Pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, phenylacetone, and phenylacetic acid are currently DEA list I and acetic anhydride is list II on the DEA list of chemicals subject to regulation and control measures. It is very difficult, however, to restate the "full turps cure" without discussing what the Add rinse acetone to remaining liquid and evaporate down to saturated alcohol, add

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