Just wanted to say that most of the modern Egyptian girls now are more dependent, modern and understanding. Well now I'm sorry for taking so long to reply too! Egyptians have an entirely separate culture and history of their own; when it comes to relations with the Arab world = they only speak Arabic, and it ends there. Enjoy! A Selected Timeline of Terms of Endearment sweetheart 1290 This combination of sweet ("lovely, charming, delightful") c. 1290 and heart (as the seat of the emotions) was originally written as. We found 20 possible solutions for this clue. Even in Egyptian Arabic textbooks, theres often a big difference between what you learn on paper and whats actually spoken by your average Egyptian. anyway dating someone who's too far away from ur culture, religion and langue barriers. i'm egyptian & i don't think i'll ever love some girl that much that make me endure all of that family shit :D. Im Egyptian, spent my whole life growing up there and my whole family is Egyptian and this is a very one sided view. Let me tell you something in poorer parts of world it can be just as much of a problem as it is in wealthier nations (sometimes much worse). Habibi and Habibti are not only used in a romantic context. Check out the What's On calendar of events, workshops and school holiday programs. I feel like I am playing the man role here and he is getting the treatment of a woman. This is what we in the West usually buy when we propose but in Egypt theres a huge, planned ceremony that goes along with it. Egyptians worship money mate, ask your other Arab mates and they'll tell you. n btw both were atheist! His responsibility for writing was shared with the goddess Seshat. Even though my bride-to-bes family knew I had very little at the time, to many of her extended family I was regarded as someone of a much higher status for the simple fact that I was from a Western nation. There's no need to overwhelm the Latin spelling (abcde..) of Arabic words with tons of numbers though. Sure my husband as real Egyptian man is trying to cover all our expenses on his own but we got married before we got an apartment, I refused to get any gold except wedding ring plus he doesn't feel that we have to visit his family members on every occasion. Lesson learned: Start getting your act together big time (settle down and find a stable job) if you want to find love in Egypt. In any country, in any part of the world, you will encounter assholes. I used to have this romanticized notion that materialism was something that only Western and East Asian societies suffered from, and that eventually Id marry someone from a poorer part of the world where its not an issue. He blocked me in linkedin, also in facebook, saying that he does not like social media, found that silly ,but is bullshit he has his accounts. Love comes first, and social pillars such as morals and religion will comfortably fall into place AFTER the love is experienced. I dont care how fluent you say you are, you will eventually experience this. While it is a genuine consideration, hearing things like this really plants seeds of doubt in your mind and causes you to be overly suspicious. I have always imagined this expression as someone melting in someone else. Be prepared to always have warm cookies ready for your grandkids when they visit! I really did enjoy reading this and I had a few laughs specially at the part of "Bathroom is the only place for privacy" Actually not even there for sometime you'd find people knocking on the door telling you to hurry the hell up 'enty bt3mely a gowa? From the earliest times, Egyptian potters were mass producing containers for everyday activities such as cooking, drinking and food storage. :). I don't know if it makes a sense.. need to ask u if this is really a big issue loving a Muslim girl? I see a beautiful young girl that can reach the stars because she is not control by fear. However, youll find some further and interesting details on some of these phrases with their accurate and native usage just beneath the table. Having said that, this dictionary might be of some help. Men shouldn't either but because the obstacle of 'whose religion the future kid will take' is solved (since he always takes the father's religion) they go easy on that one. Take a look at my other site: TalkInArabic.com. And most likely the only way to do that is if the girl agrees to leave the country. I copied the phrase "all my love" from the Egyptian Book of the Dead in a Valentine's Day card for my mother, years ago. Little cabbage (French) Petit chou. Hey there! Most of the time they just have you over for dinner to see what you're about, but literally putting pen to paper on your finances is a bit invasive. For example no privacy? anyway thanks for sharing your stories! yeah im an egyptian girl but i was born&raised in kuwaitwhen i came to egypt first time i was pretty much chocked by all that stuff.now im 24 years old and the only question i hear is :when you will get married? (An-Noor, 24:26). He was getting married to his Egyptian girlfriend of two []. ! Subscribed. Cast this magical spell for one evening only. I wouldn't have put up with it. As Ive already said above, men are judged quite harshly on what they own and what their status is. We had a romantic spot in Cairo by the Nile where a lot of couples go but the place was supervised at all times by older Egyptian men. This is driving me crazy I love her so much. Just a question though, you said she had nothing to with English -neither had her family-, so how did you two get to know each other ? She was a nurse. We flrted, spoke to each other daily through whatsapp, spoke on the phone not as often has i should have :-( generally started getting feelings for her. I don't know if that plays a role in this event that just happened to me. You can also use beb on its own or add a plethora of adjectives to mi beb, and many of the other terms of endearment, to make them even more loving, such as: mi beb hermoso/a, mi beb chulo/a, mi beb precioso/a, etc. Men harassing is on a date? Im not talking about being able to say I am happy or I am sad Im talking about all the various, detailed shades of those emotions. You can ascertain fairly early on whether or not somebody truly finds you interesting and genuinely loves you or is just looking for a free ride. Tomb architecture was complex and its art in the form of painting, sculpture and script gives a glimpse into the beliefs and daily life of the ancient Egyptians. First, of course, is about anything sweet. It was never forced, nor was I looked at as a lesser person. brotherly love) = love in the sense of infatuation (i.e. I'm an Egyptian girl, and I agree with 90% of what you mentioned. These texts were written on walls, coffins, statues or papyri. I am paying for the entire wedding because he is a very poor man. *You have to give and not expecting anything back. We must consider who we are and why we wish to marry a particular person: {Women impure are for men impure, and men impure for women impure and women of purity are for men of purity, and men of purity are for women of purity: these are not affected by what people say: for them there is forgiveness, and a provision honorable.} Hallo, Pooh, you're just in time for a little smackerel of something. I mean I hardly know Arabic people and I don't know what her family will think and I am not worried about a house or gold I have that to give to her and my second reason was that I don't know Arabic but I am willing to learn. This is the most important term for describing someone you love that you must have heard even before you started learning Arabic. Loved it. Most egyptian women are gold diggers same as to her family and relatives! I learnt my lesson the hard way. I married my husband after dating online for one month! To be completely frank and upfront, I spent most of my high school years in love with traditional cultures, Native American traditions, Eastern ideas, Indian raga music, aspects of Hinduism, and the Grateful Dead = so you can draw your conclusions from there. (E.g. How beautiful it is when you tell someone Enta Omri? You lived in here -Egypt-, almost got married to a FAMILY which you've nothing in common with, and you're still breathing with a heart still beating, with no curses and so.. yet :D! So my life become a bit complicated bcs of all these changes but Im enjoying everything. I can vouch for numbers 7 and 12, having dated both a Spanish and Russian girl. Have you had a similar experience dating or marrying into another culture? I would like to see it translates as my friend is being vague about its content. Although he may not be the type to hinder her from practicing her faith, or to force her to follow his religious traditions, there is the matter of raising children as Muslims or Christians/Jews. Thoth, (Greek), Egyptian Djhuty, in Egyptian religion, a god of the moon, of reckoning, of learning, and of writing. It's a poetic nod to the life-giving light of the sun. Directly translating to little sun, this is a good term of endearment to use for anyone who brightens your life. Etymology brotherly love) = love in the sense of infatuation (i.e. ), or be a sweet and simple term of endearment. I realized that she comes from a below-average background the moment you said she called you "ba6a". Learn Arabic in the fastest, easiest and most fun way. Hello my baby. I think so I will also face same scenario like ya I am in love with girl from cairo ( egypt) ..we started talking on fb year ago..I am planning to meet with her next year she also agreed on it..she is girl of very nice nature,cute,sweet, loving caring all things good about her :) She has very good loving friends and very good family and she passes her most of time in college attending lectures,back to home, cooking cleaning etcI am afraid if tomorrow we agreed ro marriage will she leave egypt for me or she n her parents will only agree if I settle with her in egypt? Still you fill find people from upper classes still sticking to requsting Gold (or dimonds actually) and insisting on lots of materialistic arrangements. What would red flags be? You can tell his family does not step out of their way money wise to help us. Dude, she probably just wants citizenship.. Hi Donovan, I really appreciate your sharing your experience. I think you can imagine how stressful it feels like and the danger I'd be in if my family knew about these stuff. She says she dont want to lose her family over me and lose me over her family. Menna says I love you and Marwan answers, Me too, I love you so much, Menna., In this example, a phrase that you are bound to use a lot is Ana kaman or Me too!. One of their favorite things to ask me was how I like the Jordanian guys, but I always told them that I didn't know-- girls aren't supposed to talk to guys or it's bad for the girl's reputation and the guys will get the wrong idea. But we couldn't resist sharing some of the sweet, funny terms of endearment from Reddit teachers in this recent thread. I realize that a lot of people reading this are non-religious. My "father-in-law" is very conservative and religious, and even he doesn't seem to blink an eye. You can make money, but you can't make people! And recently I am fallen in love with a Egyptian female. And unfortunately , the percentage od divorce in Egypt is 40% so even after you pay all this money and the deal of marriage is done IT MAY END WITH DIVORCE and you lose all you pay and their another hard time when you want to divorce because you may pass through legal problems in the court also if you have kids this is another problem . I'm a British girl dating a Kurdish guy and people have said similar things to me , planting seeds of suspicion in my mind too :-( I had that brief thought at the very beginning as I've also heard stories, but didn't think he was that type of guybut when the seeds of suspicion have been planted, it's hard not to be paranoid. This is really funny. a girl that ill raise your kids ..manage your life and will be your support all the life. 8. These muslims especially from egypt and Saudi Arabia and South Asia are very conservative. Sorry for my bad English, cause I was in a french school, I am from Egypt I am an atheist and yes everything here is mostly true except for the privacy part that is i mean yea you can't get sometime alone with your girl but i'm guessing that she chose the places, eh? Ayouni is how you would usually respond when someone dear to you asks you for a favor. It is amazing how you could describe the Egyptian "marriage business" that we, poor Egyptian guys, suffer from ! but, since u knw arabic now, have u heard of the word "TADBISA"? Most people never marry legally, so the lines are pretty blurry and I am introduced as friend, girlfriend, fiancee, wife--whatever the person speaking chooses. hi there , first of all im Egyptian and what the hell was u thinking marring an egyptian girl that doesn't speak english ? There is a big advantage, I guess, to have a certain age and be a little more cool also in relation to her father. BROTHER-SISTER MARRIAGE IN ANCIENT EGYPT . There is a famous saying in Egyptian that says: He is the precious one son of the precious one. Buddy 6. Egyptian society is very materialistic I never understood how! When I went home to Australia we maintained contact via Skype and telephone several times a day for a whole year. Things could have been much easier if you dated someone from a different social class. I think it is all about how you would like to be portrayed. I had an intimate relationship with an Egyptian man but I suspected he was already married to an Egyptian girl. Ive been here in Korea for two weeks and Ive been hearing quite a bit about cross-cultural relationships as there seem to be so many foreigners here dating Korean men and women. Here's lesson 13 for u, go for older and mature, independent business professionals. It really starts to become part of your identity. It seems to me that the best solution to this would be to say that those who are trying to follow their faith in a very intent manner and want their children to be brought up in the faith and so on, well then they should marry fellow Muslims because thats the way of insuring that their children would be brought up in the faith; they wouldnt be confused between this religion and that religion in the same household. It was frustrating for both of us but for me in particularly, especially that I had to replace the words with screaming. I just wanted to say that's not what all egyptians are like. but aside from this, how about you blog about your stay there and how was your life like, how did you find the people there, what did you do when you 2 got harassed especially when you were on a date. Funerary jars containing organs removed from the mummy. Her father is one of the most respectable men I have ever met, and never once has pressured me into a slew of interview questions about my life and fiances. he was lucky I was residing in the US. would survive all this. For Muslims especially theres the issue of a dowry which can be money, gold and assets. Hello! Honey 7. My advise to anyone egyptian or non egyptian stay away from marrying an egyptian girl Get someone who love u for who u r not for how much u got. It seems like minds are set to think that the Arab world is all narrow-minded and all marriage are a freakin business deal. Lesson learned: Being in a relationship with someone who doesnt speak your language really teaches you a lot about properly expressing yourself in their tongue. We used to playfully argue with each other about who loved who the most while trying to find bigger things to compare our love to (yeah I know its lame, right!). I went through a very similar one.My ex boyfriend is deaf, I am hearing, and I was learning sign language when I met him. another comment : i can't believe some of the comments made by Egyptian girls here , so judgmental , such snobs !! Terms used to describe spider biology and anatomy. My ex is from Egypt she's Muslim I'm Christian our 2 years relationship is over.. [] was a German friend that I had played Frisbee with in Cairo. Every dad treats his daughter as if she's Paris Hilton. This meant everything about my mother and father, what they do and whether or not theyre together, as well as the extent of my religious commitment. I am continually being shown the love that sensible Muslims have for their fellow human beings and humanity in general. If you really love that girl, go make an effort and study/learn their language. I have a blog about Cairo myself :D Have a great day! Intercultural and monolingual relationships that are carried in a different language than your own are hard. Bae - A popular term of endearment used for a lover. Be careful using this one. Sit on a chair with the picture in front of you on the table. Ha!) Our relationship was tumultuous. This guide is meant to help you with Arabic terms related to love, and the suitable ways you can use each of them. my finace had to go back to america after 3 weeks only, he wont be able to come back except after 8-10 months :( so now we just call and waiting desperately for us to be joined again. Egyptians often used the words brother and sister as terms of endearment when addressing their spouses, leading some early nineteenth century Egyptologists to speak of brother-sister marriages. 3. this only happens with the blind dates. I'm an American married to an Algerian man. Studies have shown there is a positive correlation between relationship satisfaction and a couple's use of terms of endearment. Calling someone "little" + his/her name sounds cute How to Make things smaller and cuter While this is not strictly "flirting" vocabulary or "slang", it is a grammatical part of the Spanish language and it has its rules. My boyfriend is from Egypt. As an Egyptian/Libyan-American I have found myself explaining the most traditional/conservative version of Egyptian dating to my American friends and it always amazes them. + You would've been quite fascinated with what was waiting for you after the "Shabkaah" thing ! Interesting, in Nigeria we have same similar issues, most especially the northern part. this is normal in Egypt. Auntie is so sweet. There were lots of questions about religion and family too. well, your post is about right by 85% I think. You cant really call your friends that unless youre officially flirting with them and want to move categories from friends to not so much. There are lots of nice Egyptian girls, but if you can't live a normal life with one they're not worth it. This is a fantastic post. Plum - A term of endearment for a sweet lady. So, Wahashtini or Wahashtiini means I felt alienated without you. lol. They are most often used to refer to a lover, child, or pet. Every weekend i used to pay a quick visit this web site, for the reason that i want enjoyment, for the reason that this this site conations in fact good funny material too. I am German, but I was married 17 years to a South Italian woman. I must say though, that there are cultures even more repressive and primitive than ours. That was a fascinating insight into another culture! Anyway, I just wanted to comment on #11, because I saw how big of a deal it was there. I am glad things are working out for yougood luck with your next adventure :) Shahd. The shabka is more than just a ring its a set of gold jewellery (necklace, bracelets, earrings, etc.) I couldnt agree more! I am just hoping to get some reply from someone with that description and somehow put you in touch with him and start communicatig can only hope for the best? family is number 1 in middle east not the money and all what you mentioned in your story because her family want to be sure that the new family will not fail.every new project need money and a good people who you trust if you really care about the future.poor people and rich people get married nothing is related to how much you have its about how u are smart to manage yourself and take the responsibility of take are of your new family.you are already have my email feed me back if u like.till then good bye and good luck. Lesson learned: Even in a country like Egypt where religion and family are number 1, possessions and status can still be a huge factor. i'm an Egyptian girl and my fiance lives in america, when he came to propose my parents didn't talk about his financial status just few chatting over his work and his family, which is only to make them know him better after all they should feel comfortable as they are giving him there daughter (me). Are there any other Egyptian History blogs you'd recommend? It's the 30- year saga of a mother and daughter; the story of a . Bae British Terms of Endearment 9. how old was she anyway? And you can also say to mean just "hello." Welcome; hello: (marHaban) Response: (marHaban bk) can be used in much the same way as , and it has a more colloquial pronunciation of "marHaba." man i'm egyptian and i want to say that what you write here is the truth the only truth and nothing but the truth , good work keep going :)). The terms of endearment are important when conflicts arise, she says, allowing a natural recourse to humor and playfulness when things get rough. Egyptians are not that bad besidesI feel u talk about something happened ages ago We are now became modern in a way that superficial things doesn't matter. And our family okay with it I guess just was you luck lol. It is a healthy mix of all walks of life. hhhhhhhhhhhhh now you know the heroic story of every Egyptian guy want to get married. Awesome. I was never baptized and was raised without religion; though it was always "known" that we were Methodist should anyone ever ask. Best is turkey kazakhstan Tataristan and cis countries where people aren't so materialistic and Decency also iran is good natured. I have to take care of every move I make. I love him so much, but I do not think he understands how much I am sacrificing. A small token that is believed to provide protection against evil or injury, worn by the living or wrapped with mummies to guard them on their journey through the underworld and protect them in the afterlife. Self explanatory. I am interested with an Egyptian girl and your post gave me some idea of their culture and I'm sure it will be helpful for me. For example, 'bunga orked' refers to the orchid, 'bunga mawar' refers to the rose, 'bunga melati' refers to the jasmine. mozza (): Sexy, babe. I guess u only picked the wrong choice of yours.. Hello, Donovan! First reason is that she is 10 years younger than me (she is 25) we are really good friends and talk everyday even take lunch together everyday and I have given her some gifts like on Christmas I give her chocolate all the time and all but do u guys think if there's lot of age difference it will work? 4. dear friend i'm a girl from Egypt - Alexandria first sorry about that but you must know not all family's like this in our country You fell victim's family loves money There are a lot of families dont think in a civilized but not all families My brother is married from Romania and his wife work here in Egypt, in the opera, they very happy in life here We dont interfere in their private lives never she is also not a Muslim she's a Christian my brother Muslim and his wife Christian, but we did not say why marry a Christian! Appetizing appellations Because they're sweet and delicious Sugar Honey Even being an Egyptian doesn't help as much :D, I read your post and enjoyed every word of it, i am an Egyptian myself and as you have described, our society culture would sound strange to a stranger for the first time, i am glad it all worked out fine for all parties at the end. To hell with that! But the Arabic language is a beautiful language and you're lucky that you got to learn the Egyptian dialect as well. So try using these nicknames to greet your loved one in a special new way, or sprinkle them throughout that epic love letter you've been writing. At first, we went out as friends. We have been married for almost 9 years and we have 2 beautiful kids. I like to read about different cultures and approaches. Mi rey / Mi reina . great experience you touched every aspect of our Egyptian life, " "thanks for sharing, hahaha omg you are so funny especially when you said you are not only marrying her but you are marrying the whole family i started dieing lmaoand duck haha even though am egyptian it sounds a little funny in english and having privacy only in the bathroom sooo truee omg loll i love this article xD, you are lucky that you left her god damn Egyptian girls , they are not simple you need lots of stories to tell and don't forget the religion stuff OMG that's why i wanna immigrate. In Arabic, when it comes to love and describing the sheer beauty of a woman, we use Ammar. He is the time she spent alive. despite that, God bless you! I could easily list off a dozen more terms and expressions but I think this will do. I said Id write about it eventually and here it is; forbidden love between a Middle Eastern girl with no English and a bloke from Australia learning Arabic, as well as the important lessons learned from the whole experience. Hearing about the cultural differences and challenges they face has really made me reflect a lot on what I learned from almost getting married to a girl while I was living in Egypt a girl who didnt speak any English. Do you know how (or if) society has changed in Egypt in the last couple years? Having said so, the only thing I want to point out to, although you have already done, is that there is no generalisation! Image credit: gadigal yilimung (shield) madeby UncleCharlesChickaMadden. or u must buy a flay in their country i think it is a rip off, I'm egyptian =D and 100% sure that her family was after you for just money sorry but its true if she's really into you she would never let you and you left all the classy places in egypt and went for cairo REALLLLY its like arezona in us I guess more worse , next time come in 6 october city go for cairo runners play tennis go to alex or red sea don't wast your time in egypt have fun. But what do you suggest I wear when I am about to ask her father for a date? I met a Moroccan girl online, we fell in love & now I want to marry her,But first I need to take the permission of her father for that.Problem is,I live in dubai & all this have to be done on telephone.Any suggestions on how would I approach to her father?