Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. Thank you for visiting the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department website. The current estimate is 2,000 - 2,700 throughout Arizona. And I think a lot of folks would like them to be around. Thanks for your call. One was in Shelton. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. All they think it traveled north through Canada up you know crossed across the Great Lakes and then and then down again through New York State. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. 1,470 likes. Less successful males roam further. Monadnock Ledger-Transcript - Claims of mountain lions spread So it's there was no question in my mind. There's no attraction. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. There's always been physical evidence to prove those situations like hair or fur scat hair prints pictures of the animal print scat hair. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. For instance, Floridas wildlife officials have a similar ghost cat: the black panther. Tate said that while a mountain lion sighting in New Hampshire isn't likely, it's not impossible. Sam. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. 50 feet above the most. Caller: Oh hi. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center Caller: Hey guys how you doing. I tracked cats and all the western states. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. OK. But you won't find evidence of their existence in paw prints in the snow or a deer carcass in a tree. And when provoked no animal could stand before him elegantly put. Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department Gotcha, so the Deep State is suppressing mountain lion news in order to prop up New Hampshire tourism? I've had a number of people call up and say I found a scout in the woods and I want it DNA identified. Erler is a senior naturalist at the Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness. Why are there so many false positives? Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it. As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. They create these scrapes where theyre communicating with each other with scent. Is this kind of a typical story. So that did it for me. Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. So you want identifiable backgrounds. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. Absolutely. We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. Thanks very much. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. Russ, from Sandwich (and Bedford) asks: In Sandwich New Hampshire, everybody has a story about seeing a mountain lion. I mean they're a survivor. Well Is DNA the most reliable means we have of identifying whether or not what we saw is actually a mountain lion. We had six copies printed out each. 44-H Links. And you know all that. We'd love to have you in the queue. Over a period of a year and a half, this Mountain Lion left DNA evidence in at least four states. (Cue the X-Files music: The Government is denying the cougars exist!) This decision was primarily for nerdy phylogeny reasons, though, because the eastern cougar probably never existed. Early in the morning. Saddleback Mountain Lions Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. Want to put this to to Patrick Tate who may have heard some some info or info from listeners like you about these these these cats. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. She quotes a biologist in Lyme New Hampshire who who is keeping two mountain lions himself so in the not too distant past in the early nineteen hundreds it was perhaps more common and still in Maine. Peter Biello: Well Karl Jarvis a former reporter for The King's son Nile thank you very much for for calling in and sharing your perspective and to his point Patrick T. I mean yes we haven't met the scientific burden of proof here in New Hampshire as far as physical evidence is is concerned but is there room at Fish and Game For A kind of an informal nod to all of the people who have somehow convinced themselves and possibly some others that yeah there may be occasional sightings here. Love hearing these stories. Peter Biello: When did you allegedly see a mountain lion. I didn't see him online. I found a second scat scent both to him. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. Patrick Tate: Okay. I would say that there's going to be the truth in here somewhere. The Connecticut Mountain Lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. Peter Biello: So if they were female mountain lions here they would be more males just because that's what they're looking for. Mountain lion or cat running across. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. So this whole illegal pet trade black market pro trade thing does does exist in a situation like that can happen. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. That's next time on one day. Somewhere the way they travel the things they do they're going to leave evidence. Select image for larger view. They reported seeing the big tail and everything everything. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. It was some sort of a Lion Mountain Lion animal. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. Is there something particularly hospitable about New Hampshire Forests that make them want to come here. So I would put this in the category of sort of like shark attacks right. There are mountain lion in Massachusetts. This is where things start breaking down when you so I get pictures with this great description and one of my favorite stories is a great description what the witness and then so I called the witness and wanted information from them and the person says What are you talking about. Anytime at any HP broad dot org or subscribe to our podcast search Apple podcasts Google Play or stitcher for an HP bar exchange. Mike Guyton pressure was almost Greyhound like very muscular large back legs on it and the coloration on it was almost an orange brownish orange color and so I stop and I look at this thing in the field and as the animal looks at me the face was very chiseled definitely not a bobcat. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? - WMUR Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. If it's just in the middle of a greenfield you can't prove anything. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Get your tickets today and one for fifty dollars or six for 150 at NH PR and board. Thank you. John is calling from Bennington. If so that's for us as an agency. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. That's too big for Bobcat. 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020. There was no sign of it. On a dirt road. Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center All exhibit and hiking trails are CLOSED for the season. And it came out we could see it had and we could see its long swooping tail. The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . Think You Saw A Mountain Lion in N.H.? - New Hampshire Public Radio Sam Evans-Brown: Well this might be a good moment to talk about hoaxes. You're on the air. He told me that on one of his many scouting trips for Black Bear he found a deer carcass up in a tree. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. So let's let's go to the phones. Okay. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Reviewing the evidence, the U.S. I live pretty much on the town line of Greenfield just a couple of miles down in the Greenfield. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. 1957. Caller: I do. What's going on. My wife and I saw a mountain lion. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. You saw what you saw. Gap Mountain Lions Club Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction 3,207 views Jul 31, 2019 78 Dislike Share Save New Hampshire Fish and Wildlife 634 subscribers During my thirty-one career at the New. 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. They absolutely do. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS Peter Biello: Yeah well what do you think Pat is. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted. So I certainly can't dispute anything that they said there's no evidence for me to go by to verify or say what my thoughts are on the situation. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. You know interactions are pretty unusual. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. Theres tracks everywhere. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. So what those ranges. I have one that's more elaborate than that. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. Many people in New Hampshire have claimed to have seen mountain lions. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Patrick Tate: Yes. Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! I mean there was this one lady I remember and tough tomorrow. Have it reported down in the Keene area. Patrick Tate: And there's one other way to model that is the same animal. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Its closest living relative is the cheetah. Part II. So that's the specimen that you find going long distances. And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. Known to exist in the state for over well over a hundred years. And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. Like why would you want one wildlife. They sent he sent his scent those two samples with his to Wyoming an unfortunate Fish and Game Commission there did not get a positive read on it but send it back to Central Michigan University where they did a nuclear micro satellite DNA analysis and found no significant difference between that scat and other scats that were tested from the Rocky Mountain region. Well within there. Numerous scat and fur specimens have been turned in as part of mountain lion report investigations; DNA identification has shown these submitted samples to be from domestic dog, coyote, bobcat andraccoon. John if you're still on the line here I was going to I don't. So so in 2011 a mountain lion was killed in a car accident in Connecticut a car hit a mountain lion and killed it.

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