When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Mets leaders, by category, in post-season games. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. December 13, 2007 When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. October 2, 2005 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. October 19, 2011 And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. senor ortiz Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. Jamey Bumbalo snook Stu Baron June 30, 2019 June 2, 2006 He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Bartolo Colon etc). June 2, 2006 In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. September 24, 2005 Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. October 18, 2008 You've got to be good 365 days a year. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. October 19, 2011 Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. Della raced in the 1960s-early '70s. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? That would make him a star in today's market. I remember Lolich pitching some good ball for the Mets with absolutely NO run support. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. He wanted to finish out his career in Detroit, where he had some great years (the photo of him jumping on Bill Freehan after the final out in the 1968 World Series is a classic). His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. February 27, 2002 Raymond Malcuit As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. December 8, 2006 His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. November 3, 2006 Rusty played another decade. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. Ramblin' Pete October 13, 2008 to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. December 20, 2019 Mickey Lolich was the only pitcher in baseball who fit that description. August 11, 2015 Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. Bob P However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. End of Line Jim Snedeker As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. More information Mickey Lolich More like this Birch Run Frankenmuth Bacon Burger Tonys Visitors Bureau Most Favorite Favorite Places Traverse City Banana Split Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. - Now for the trade itself. Raymond Malcuit Jr. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. eddiek He has been married to Joyce Fleenor since 21 November 1964. body would be a pretty slender person. October 19, 2011 Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. pete Jay Raymond Malcuit Rusty played another decade. October 18, 2008 We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. In one of his best games as a Met, hefty lefty Lolich (no doubt the prototype for David Wells), tossed 8 innings, allowing 8 hits and 2 walks while striking out 4, the only run scoring on a fourth-inning groundout by a young Dave Parker.Alas, with the Mets historically typical poor run support, Lolich left, trailing 1-0, for pinch hitter Mike Phillips, who fanned for the 2nd out of the ninth, before singles by Ed Kranepool (batting for Leon Brown) and Bruce Boisclair and a walk to John Milner loaded the bases for Joe Torre. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! LA-Mets Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. SUMMARY Career WAR 48.0 W 217 L 191 ERA 3.44 G 586 GS 496 SV 10 IP 3638.1 SO Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Rusty could hit with the lights out. You can't trade Rusty Staub without instantly improving team speed". He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. April 30, 2009 But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! October 19, 2011 Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! June 11, 2003 I remember when M. Donald Grant traded Staub for Lolich he explained it to disgusted NY sports fans by saying something like "the team needs more speed. ", And what about the occasional Tiger fan who taunts him about his tummy? He pitched very good ball for you. Ramblin' Pete The '68 World Series hero Mickey Lolich became an important and popular part of Lake Orion when he opened Lolich's Donut and Pastry Shop on Lapeer Road next to the Lake Orion Post Office. A bronze sign was used to cover up the original limestone etching underneath. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. What an interesting parallel, huh? As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. Mickey loved his Harley. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. May 7, 2013 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. Shari feat fan My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. He was All-GLIAC his senior season. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Doug S. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. bogeyman Stu Baron John Bruce May 9, 2002 170 lbs.? March 22, 2005 Baseball burnt him out. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. November 3, 2006 Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? senor ortiz to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. But dad could never pronounce his name right; he always called him "Yo-lich" no matter how many times we corrected him. Scrappy November 12, 2006 Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. September 29, 2007 June 30, 2019 (thankfully returning in '81). The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. May 9, 2002 The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! NO WAY he was 170 pounds. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. - Now for the trade itself. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. However, this guy had some incredible numbers in Detroit, especially in the Post Season. Dianna Jeanneh Jones I kinda wish he had stayed with the Tigers and I could have rooted for him from afar. Man, he was a big one. Appearancewise, Lolich made Sid Fernandez look like Tom Hall (remember him??) Mickey Lolich (Michael Stephen Lolich) was born on 12 September, 1940 in Portland, Oregon, USA, is an Actor. Bobster1985 But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. He had terrific stuff. However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. He is best known for his performance in . But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. I was 7 years old, listening to the Mets on the radio in the car with my mother. January 12, 2011 As Sonny Jurgenson once said "you don't throw the ball with your stomach." October 4, 2006 Cut him some slack. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. snook Raymond Malcuit May 8, 2003 I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. GoMets2006 He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. August 7, 2018 He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. June 11, 2003 An interesting thing about Lolich that I remember from an old Mets program is that he's actually right handed. 6'1", 170???? Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. Lolich has been retired since 1979, after having won 217 games, plus 3 more in the 1968 World Series, when he led Detroit to a victory over the Cardinals. So he went from being the long-time Tiger Ace (and best Tiger- the 1968 World Series was won by him- and also almost the 1972 Playoffs) to just a nobody for New York- can you blame him for this back-stabbing trade by Tiger management? Bartolo Colon etc). Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. May 7, 2013 Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. October 19, 2011 The prices shown are the lowest prices available for Mickey Lolich the last time we updated. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! February 28, 2003 In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. feat fan He started 45 games and completed 29. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Rusty loved New York and the Mets, and wanted to finish his career here. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. April 23, 2003 I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. LA-Mets And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Rusty could hit with the lights out. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. Rusty played another decade. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. March 2, 2003 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. I recall one year where he had 121 RBI's. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. John Bruce Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. December 13, 2007 Jamey Bumbalo He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. September 29, 2007 Hot Stove Tracker Starting Lineups Transactions Postseason History Injury Report World Baseball Classic MLB Draft All-Star Game MLB Pipeline Great Stories. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. June 30, 2019 McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. He flips his shades to the top of his head, orders a yuppie beer and chats with a group of middle-aged women at the next table. Shari He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. Baseball burnt him out. Fact is Lolich was always overweight. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Raymond Malcuit Jr. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. We are going all the way!" But Don Grant was bananas, and he took the first decent offer he received. No contest. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. snook Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. (thankfully returning in '81). Shari Bob P January 12, 2011 Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. July 31, 2002 feat fan Raymond Malcuit Jr. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! April 6, 2012 Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Shari I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. October 2, 2005 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. senor ortiz Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. December 20, 2019 October 4, 2005 ", His poetry would probably also stop Ali in his tracks. How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Man, he was a big one. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. December 13, 2007 As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. December 20, 2019 I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. murphy Baseball burnt him out. Bob I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. Shickhaus Franks He also had a terrific arm and was a darn good fielder. Michael support. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. =Chuck= When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Randy Tate body would be a pretty slender person. May 7, 2013 Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. November 10, 2002 But the facts are:Lolich spent 16 years in the Majors. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. (thankfully returning in '81). April 23, 2003 At night, Park Island was illuminated by strings of thousands of lights. I find it odd that he didn't play in 1977. September 12, 2002 The Detroit Tigers traded pitcher Mickey Lolich (right) for outfielder Rusty Staub at baseball's winter meetings in 1975 in a deal that was originally vetoed by Lolich. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. Mickey loved his Harley. A few more years as the ace of the Tigers staff probably would have landed him in the Hall of Fame. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! GoMets2006 God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Yes, Mickey had some great years with the Tigers, no disrespect to him, but acquiring him at the cost of Rusty was one of the Mets' top three bonehead trades. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Really? I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. eddiek The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Lolich may be a legend in Detroit based on his 1968 World Series performance, but he was at the end of his career by 1976. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. Donut Shops Beverages Restaurants. They were in business until 1926 when the electric refrigerator gained in popularity. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. December 20, 2019 The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. Thanks for the memories, Mick! $95 after 10% discount. Ramblin' Pete Man, he was a big one. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. feat fan All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. 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